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May 1, 2011

Ding-dong

It hasn’t mattered for a long time whether Osama bin Laden was dead or not but it sure feels good to have it confirmed.

May all of America’s enemies suffer this same fate.

Posted by Karol at 11:36 PM |
Comments

Yes, I’m sure you’ll be giving credit to this administration for the closure. ;-)

Posted by: Capt. Oilybird at May 2, 2011 at 7:17 pm

I’ll say it: Props to President Obama for giving the green light on this as opposed to settling for a B-2 Special back in March. While I’ll be honest, I would have personally preferred a first strike against Pakistan’s nuclear facilities in conjunction with putting about 4 x 300kt warheads on this mansion, the Nurse Betty + Shark Chum works for me.

(Why yes, I did just advocate nuking Pakistan. You let a f*cker like this live less than 30 miles from your capital, you get to be visible from the Moon for the next 10,000 years. Sometimes you have to remind people why it’s not a good idea to double cross you.)

Posted by: James at May 2, 2011 at 10:06 pm

I think the administration, and the president in particular, has taken enough credit for itself without me.

Posted by: Karol at May 3, 2011 at 1:36 pm

I just liked the images of the people celebrating in NYC. There was no way that people could get over 9/11 without this event. I also would remind the talking heads who said Obama should not offend Pakistan over the last 9 months that cooperating with them would have led to a quick escape for OBL, following a tip-off from one of the AQ spies in the Pakistan Military. The best way to complete this operation was not to tell them about it.

Posted by: Capt. Oilybird at May 3, 2011 at 6:25 pm

Didn’t the previous administration shut down the task force to find OBL? Even people commenting on this blog said it was not worth the expense and effort. I say it was.

Posted by: Capt. Oilybird at May 3, 2011 at 6:27 pm

Sorry Karol, but the President can keep using “I” all he wants as far as I’m concerned. The man ordered the strike, he can bask in the glory. Doesn’t mean I’m going to be all “Tippecanoe and Tyler Too” about it come next year or that I don’t think that the train started with some guy’s junk being on the wrong end of an Everready in a Saudi prison thanks to President Bush. It does mean, however, that I can tip my hat and say “Well played, Mr. President, well played.”

Note: This comment subject to expiration if Pakistan uses this as a pretext to give AQ a nuke to “teach American a lesson.” Then I’m back to my first comment.

Posted by: James at May 3, 2011 at 8:35 pm

“Sorry Karol, but the President can keep using “I” all he wants as far as I’m concerned.”

And I’m sure he will.

Posted by: Karol at May 4, 2011 at 2:43 pm

Hmm, interesting. I seem to recall the wailing and yelling in the lefty press the first months after 9/11 (gee, if that is not a tautology!) to the tune of “We can see on the video that after Bush was told he was criminally SEATING silently for another 3.5. minutes! He didn’t jump up and run immediately to Save The Nation! He is not fit to be a Commander in Chief!”

Puts 16 hours that Oh’Bummer reserved for decision to kill after he was briefed that the Special Ops did complied with his order and confirmed the target into a different perspective, isn’t it? He sent them, they found the mf, now Obama takes 16 freaking hours to give them a “go”? What was he thinking, his golf moves?

A poseur. A liar. A…shoot, how do you call a guy who takes credit for something his predecessor did? My English is limited to polite expressions and Oh’Bummer does not deserves one.

Posted by: Tatyana at May 4, 2011 at 5:28 pm

So 9/11 was Clinton’s fault and OBL’s death is to W’s credit?
Better to have spent 16 hrs to get it right than spend over 7 years and give up after 5 years. He didn’t spend 16 hours sat silently in front of a group of kindergarteners looking like a deer in the headlites.

Posted by: Capt. Oilybird at May 5, 2011 at 9:50 am

You got it right, Oily:
9/11 was Clinton’s fault
Laden’s death is to Bush’s credit
Oh’Bummer proved – once again – his utter inadequacy to the post
Waterboarding – confirmed by Leon Panetta – WAS used in Guantanamo (which Obama failed to close as promised) and DID lead to acquiring information about Laden’s whereabouts

and I’m sure, lots and lots more thing your poor shrunken brain can not process w/o exploding; see above comment for perfect example.

Posted by: Tatyana at May 5, 2011 at 3:05 pm

Tatyana–sorry, but I want a commander-in-chief who acts with some deliberation. If the plan is to put 24-40 soldiers into a hostile country without air cover in the middle of Injun territory, I want the decision to execute that plan done after some really, really careful thought.

If you believe the narrative that no one in the Pakistani government knew until the first SEAL was fast roping, that could have gone south in a hurry. There’s a lot more at risk than just the commando team–a glance at that atlas I’m sure you have close at hand will show you where those wonderful supply lines into Afghanistan run through.

9/11 has enough blame to go around. It’s called the enemy planned well, 20 years of “don’t resist the hijackers” propaganda, and some incredibly good/bad luck depending on where you stand. Yes, ol’ Slick Willy was too busy testing the hand and mouth coordination of a certain intern, but I can tell you that one Mr. bin Laden (may he RIH) was very much on people’s radar in Clinton’s second term. I don’t give the man a pass by any means, but Oilybird has a point that we didn’t exactly break out the flaming sword of vengeance from 2003-2008 so that’s pretty much a wash. Ask yourself this: if a nuke went off in D.C. tomorrow and it was later found that OBL had planned the attack over the last 5 years would you say it was Bush’s fault? I somehow think not.

In that same vein, Bush could have ended this whole discussion on Gitmo by pardoning every interrogator on his way out the door. It’s what _I_ would have done…but then again, my conversation with Pakistan on 12 September would have probably ended with Masharraf soiling himself and promising me anything in his power to grant. To each his own, I guess.

Posted by: James at May 5, 2011 at 8:12 pm

James,
I’ll read all of your comment tomorrow (sorry, busy night and busy morning tomorrow), just one first thing that came to mind:

Obama did deliberated – before he was told the target is set. As I read, he was briefed back in August about the lead to Laden’s whereabouts and since then he did nothing but deliberated. He had more time to deliberate than anybody for this kind of military operation. He had time to think it over while the special ops built a model of the compound, for chrissakes, to train for the operation.
And while all this was going on you’re telling me he didn’t know for what purpose were all this preparations? What was he thinking during all those meetings and briefings, then? You are telling me that he required another 16 hrs when finally everyone was ready and every minute was precious?
Self-important poseur, nothing else – he could have jeopardized the whole thing with his empty posturing.

Posted by: Tatyana at May 5, 2011 at 10:33 pm

Bay of Pigs, Rescue of Iranian embassy hostages. 2 examples of quickly executed SNAFU ops.
That you can say nothing non-negative about the CiC says a lot about you, and more when tied into your nothing-negative attitude to the GOP. Some things are beyond politics. Finishing OBL was a good thing, period.
I gamble on occasion, and have found the only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner, wishing the bet placed had been a bigger one instead of enjoying the 10, 20 or even 1000 bucks won. This was a win for the good guys for all the Americans who grieved over loved ones in 2001. The name of the party of the President is way down the list of factors here.

Posted by: Capt. Oilybird at May 6, 2011 at 6:20 am

the only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner
Remind me, pls, who was that who used “I won!” as his argument and reason for certain actions?

The name of the party of the President is way down the list of factors here

Oh sure, just as long as the name on the posters is Obama, right? Any color for Ford is fine as long as it’s black, yep.

Posted by: Tatyana at May 6, 2011 at 7:59 am

And where the hell you find in my comment “nothing-negative attitude to the GOP”? I said nothing about GOP, it wasn’t the topic of conversation. I am not a member of GOP, nor am I particularly fond of them. But yeah – what I say says something about me – and it says exactly what I say! I don’t hide, I don’t obfuscate, I don’t maneuver; I deliberately abstain from using double-speak: I have lived through real masters of it, not amateurs like certain empty-suit poseur – and I made a personal rule to say what I mean.

That’s the typical lefties for you: they distort, they lie and they libel – all for building a “docier” on someone, however false; the more idiotic the better, so as they can self-lubricate their injured sense of superiority.

I can say nothing non-negative about Barak Hussein Obama because there is nothing positive to say. He is the enemy of America, of American people. He – but much more those behind him, who propped up this puppet – are plague on this proud and CAPITALIST country. He can’t do anything right because his “right” is my “wrong”; because he and his puppetmasters are socialist scam, an enemy of freedoms, from personal to economic.

The only right thing he can do is to get the hell out of white House.

Posted by: Tatyana at May 6, 2011 at 8:20 am

Have just realized that you are a crazy loon. No point continuing.

Posted by: Capt. Oilybird at May 6, 2011 at 4:50 pm

One thing I will say, Stalin and Brezniev have nothing on the GOP for revising history and distortion. No wonder you echo them (I’m not GOP my ass; are you voting Libertarian to oust Obama?).

Posted by: Capt. Oilybird at May 6, 2011 at 4:56 pm

Not your business how I’m voting, oily worm.

You have no idea about Stalin OR Brezhnev if you compare them to GOP.

In what way I “echo” Stalin, pray tell? Or Brezhnev, for that matter? Quotes, preferably.

Posted by: Tatyana at May 6, 2011 at 6:48 pm
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