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February 2, 2011

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There are so many stupid people in this article, about smoking being banned on NY beaches, that it’s sort of mind-boggling:

A unusually divided City Council has passed a total ban on smoking in parks, beaches and public plazas.

The vote was 36 to 12, our Erin Einhorn reports:

Councilmembers in favor of the bill gave impassioned speeches about loved ones who died of smoking-related cancers and children who suffered from asthma.

So now we’ve banned smoking outdoors. Stupid.

Opponents invoked civil liberties, including some who said they were personally opposed to smoking and were great supporters of banning cigarettes in bars, but were disappointed that lawmakers did not consent to a compromise bill that would have restricted smoking to designated areas in parks.

Others said they were torn, including Queens Councilman Leroy Comrie — who even invoked Kristallnacht, saying if “we start going after individual personal liberties,” we’ll end up with tyranny. But Comrie ended up voting for the bill, he said, because his teenage kids told him he should.

Wow. Extra stupid. First to compare the ban to Nazi Germany and then to vote for that same bill! I’m embarrassed for you Councilman Comrie.

The ban on smoking in parks is the latest proposal from Mayor Bloomberg to curtail New Yorkers’ bad habits (or, some say, create a nanny state).

Bloomberg initially questioned whether the city had the resources to police smoking in its sprawling parks, but changed his tune last summer after the Daily News ran photos of more than 1,000 cigarette butts littering the beach at Coney Island.

In September, he formally called for the ban, which required City Council approval. It will largely be self-policed.

“Parks and beaches are places where people sit and talk, and they deserve to be smoke-free,” said bill sponsor Gale Brewer (D-Manhattan

Got that? Bloomberg said we couldn’t afford to police people smoking outside but then the Daily News ran a photo of a bunch of cigarette butts so he decided…well, we still can’t afford it but, whatever, let’s pass the law and hope people police themselves. The only thing that saves our mayor from being the dumbest person in this article is the “it’s like the Nazis but I’m going to vote for it anyway” Councilman above. He just sets a particularly low bar.

Posted by Karol at 05:36 PM |

Agreed. There seem to be higher priority stuff they should be focusing on.

Posted by: Muckdog at February 3, 2011 at 10:31 am

The Nazi comparison followed by voting for it, as stupid as it was, I can at least appreciate the guy’s honesty about his thought process. I think most politicians think like this, “oh man, this is ethically and morally disgusting, but I may as well go along with it because it’s popular.” I’m mostly disgusted, but in a small way it’s refreshing to at least see someone be honest about their dishonesty.

Posted by: T. AKA Ricky Raw at February 3, 2011 at 12:48 pm

As stupid as the first two parts of his line of reasoning are, how are they more stupid than this:

But Comrie ended up voting for the bill, he said, because his teenage kids told him he should.

Posted by: Gerard at February 3, 2011 at 2:00 pm

This kind of prohibition won’t solve the problem of smoking in public places. I think the only way to reduce the number of those who smoke is to increase the price of cigarettes.

Posted by: Heather at February 3, 2011 at 5:09 pm

Cigarettes are nearing $15 in NYC.

Posted by: Karol at February 3, 2011 at 7:20 pm

But of course, banning smocking is more important than dealing with budget, snow-cleaning or even Cordoba House scandal…

Posted by: Tatyana at February 3, 2011 at 7:22 pm

There are, of course alternatives

Posted by: Gerard at February 3, 2011 at 10:45 pm

I’ve never been a smoker and never will be, however I think that this bill is absolutely ridiculous.

Posted by: Liz at February 4, 2011 at 11:31 am

Major crime rates are increasing in New York. Streets and sidewalks are still are not being properly cleared. The Second Avenue Subway is a rolling disaster for traffic and businesses. The new bike lanes and outdoor pavilions are a disaster for traffic and commerce, and get plowed before the out boroughs. But the mayor nad 80% of Democrats on the City Council saw fit to take a break from the busy schedule of keeping poor and minority businesses underserved by stores, to rally around a new cause: banning outdoor cigarettes. As if the city and MTA decission have not caused a magnitude greater amount of air pollution by making driving more difficult in NYC.
Dumb nanny statism and incompetence all rolled together. (Can I still say “rolled together?” I think that’s a cigarette reference and I’m within a block of a school…)

Posted by: RonL at February 4, 2011 at 7:06 pm

Is the smoker, the new Jew in NYC?

Posted by: vinny at February 5, 2011 at 9:03 am

The real problem is that a policy of cracking down on declining vices gives anybody with a vice an incentive to promote it. Overeaters, for example, are taking notes.

Posted by: Joseph Hertzlinger at February 6, 2011 at 10:45 pm

This is setting a precedent.

Posted by: Joseph Hertzlinger at February 6, 2011 at 11:09 pm


I can see why the precedent needs to be set, given the obvious fire hazard if a smoker is around. LOL

Seriously, maybe Bloomberg and the NYC Council need to put their money where their mouths are. Ban the use, sale, possession, transportation, etc. of tobacco. Forgo the tax revenue, if it is such a hazard.

Posted by: Isophorone at February 7, 2011 at 8:53 am

What about Egypt? What about Reagaversary?

Posted by: Capt. Oilybird at February 8, 2011 at 4:05 am
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