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November 24, 2008

Incoming US president shrugs shoulders and wonders why we care about such a “tiny” country

‘Israel spy’ put to death in Iran

Israeli officials were quoted in June as saying that Israel was not familiar with the case.

Posted by Karol at 11:19 AM |
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That was a probe. A successful one; expect more.

Posted by: Tatyana at November 24, 2008 at 11:41 am

Putting Israeli spies to death? Maybe we should start doing that to the likes of Pollard.
I’m not sure why Karol started with a nasty comment about Obama. Barak Hussein Obama does have Rahm Israel Emmanuel as his chief of staff. Back in 1991 when the US was engaged in a great conflict in the Mideast why Rahm Israel Emmanuel volunteered and went abroad….to help the Israeli Defense Force in a civilian role. And come to think about Rahm Israel Emmanuel’s old man was with Irgun, the Ziofacist terrorist group that blew up the King David hotel back in the 40s.
I don’t think Obama is going to be quite as anti-Israel as people think.

Posted by: Von Bek at November 24, 2008 at 2:19 pm

It wasn’t meant to imply he’d be anti-Israel. He actually did say Iran wasn’t a threat because it’s so “tiny”. I mean, if Palin had said that everyone would have rolled their eyes and called her a moron but Obama gets to get away with saying Iran is no threat.
Also, if you really think this guy was an Israeli spy, I have several nice bridges in Brooklyn to sell you.

Posted by: Karol at November 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm

He may have been. He may not have been. My guess would be he was not. I think it is fair to say that the Mossad is one of, if not the, best intelligence agencies in the world and they have a vested interest in determining if Iran has nuclear weapons.
You’re right though-Palin (or W. or Quayle back in the day) would have been taking to task for that comment.

Posted by: Von Bek at November 24, 2008 at 4:10 pm

Von Beck,
Rahm Emmanuel is the perfect cover for attacking Israel. Rahm Emmanuel never fought for Israel. Rather he joined what amounted to a Bush administration PR stunt to help keep Israel from responding to Iraqi attacks. Emmanuel was one of a few hundred highly publicized volunteers to the IDF, who provided the equivalent of disaster relief for Israelis.
Emmanuel later used this service to help protect President Clinton and the State Department Arabists in pushing Israel to trade land for terrorism. Emmanuel also used his father broken ties with the Revisionist Zionist movement, to help shield him from criticism during the Clinton administrations successful attempt to overthrow the Netanyahu led Likud government in the last 1990s.
The Irgun Zvai Leumi was not Fascist and British Military Occupation headquarters was a legitimate target.
Learn some facts before you embarrass yourself, Von Beck.
As for Pollard, he is where he deserves to be. I have nothing against putting spies to death, but you would think that spies for enemy countries would be at the head of this. Soviet spies Robert Hanssen, Aldrich Ames, Felix Bloch come to mind.

Posted by: RonL at November 24, 2008 at 5:23 pm

I said Emmanuel helped out IDF in a civilian role.
With all due respect, most of the people who were killed in the attack on the King David Hotel bombing were civilians (hotel staffers). By your logic, the Pentagon may have been a legitimate military target on 9/11. Same with the US Marine Barracks in Beirut back in 1983 (if memory serves a custodian and his family were killed in the attack). Nonetheless, an attack under disguise that leads to the death of numerous civilians is terrorism no matter who commits it.
I am with you that the above mentioned Soviet spies should be punished with the death penalty. While I am pro-life, the death penalty for spying was embraced by the Founding Fathers (Henry Clinton’s ADC, John Andre for example) and the death penalty is spelled out in the US Constitution for traitors. I have no problems with the likes of Hanssen, Ames etc. meeting the same fate as the Rosenbergs.

Posted by: Von Bek at November 24, 2008 at 9:23 pm

I’m with Von Bek–if the guy was a spy, the fact that the Iranians killed him doesn’t trip my trigger on “let’s bring up Obama’s numerous ill-conceived foreign policy statements.”
I mean, seriously–even if he wasn’t a spy, the Iranians thought so, hence the execution. I’m not quite understanding the big deal or “probe” commentary. The U.S. really shouldn’t get in the habit of telling people they can’t execute their spies–we should simply do it a bit more often with our own.

Posted by: James at November 24, 2008 at 10:43 pm

The Pentagon was a legitimate target of war no different than Pearl Harbor. The use of a civilian airliner made it terrorism. Of course the other attacks on 9-11, those at the World Trade Center and the other airliner were pure terrorism.
The car bombing of the US Marine Barracks was a hit on a legitimate military target. However, the attack itself was illegitimate in so far as the US was not occupying Lebanon and we were there to stop the violence with the backing of the Lebanese government.
The civilian deaths at the King David Hotel were tragic. However, the Irgun went out of its way to minimize these casualties. 30 minutes prior to the detonation, they phoned both the French consulate and British Mandate Secretariat and Military Headquarters which were based there. The French evacuated and the British not only told them to f off, but purposely withheld the threat from the staff. The British used the civilian employees as human shields and the blood is on their hands.
The Irgun was involved in some rather controversial actions and some of them are hard to justify, but this was not one of them.
I suggest that you take a good look at the actions of the Sons of Liberty before you start condemning actions out of hand.
Major John Andre held a military commission. His hanging was actually controversial at the time, but I have no problem with it. It was a better death than the starvation of American prisoners aboard British prison ships.

Posted by: RonL at November 25, 2008 at 6:03 pm

I’ll bet you any amount of money that Obama made the “tiny” comment before he had his introductory security briefing for the Presidency.

Posted by: Pokerwolf at November 29, 2008 at 9:36 pm
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