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October 30, 2007

Losing a Yankee

The biggest Yankee fan I know has some kind words for ARod. I’ll miss him too. I hated the booing fans, that always made me crazy.

UPDATE: LA steals everything; Dodgers to hire Torre.

Posted by Karol at 03:31 AM |
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I hear ARod is a Met already.

Posted by: harrison at October 30, 2007 at 8:15 am

Joe Torre and Scott Proctor reunited again. It warms the heart.
Don Mattingly’s going to be the Dodgers’ new bench coach. And Kevin Long (Yanks’ hitting coach last year) may follow them as well.

Posted by: Peter at October 30, 2007 at 11:05 am

Looks like y’all are just swapping Joes.

Posted by: Shawn at October 30, 2007 at 11:50 am

How can you be sad about losing a player that didn’t want to be on the team?

Posted by: FunkyPundit at October 30, 2007 at 2:38 pm

FP – my sentiments exactly. He can take his lavender lips, his insane head and his inability to be clutch and enjoy life in some lame city playing for a lame team.
I’m sure in Baltimore or Kansas City they won’t care when he takes his whore out, when his wife wears “fuck you” t-shirts to the stadium, when he calls out his teammates or that he has daddy issues.
He is a great player but a crap man. And I’ll only miss the former.

Posted by: Ari at October 30, 2007 at 3:17 pm

The fans booed him and the press tore him apart. If I was one of the best players in the game ever, I wouldn’t want to be on that team either.

Posted by: Karol at October 30, 2007 at 3:17 pm

Then he should have stayed in TX. Look, I know the huge salary doesn’t inure one to the criticism but he had to know it was coming. He is (in theory) a professional – he should have handled it as such.
He didn’t come to NY to get hugs, he came for a ring.

Posted by: Ari at October 30, 2007 at 3:21 pm

I’m disappointed because my favorite team had the greatest player of our generation and that wasn’t good enough for a lot of people, so instead of appreciating what we had, they drove him out of town. No player deserves the sort of treatment like he received in his time here.
When did he ever call out his teammates? It was his manager and teammates who helped SI write that attack piece last year. A-Rod went out of his way to be deferential to Jeter and took on a mentoring role with the younger players.
Clutch is a myth which gets reinforced by selective memory.

Posted by: Peter at October 30, 2007 at 4:25 pm

Peter… 7 for 44 is not selective. In the post season it’s a nightmare!
I adored him, I bought the shirt, I cheered the loudest, but now he’s gone and we have to adjust and not bother mourning. Would you care if you got booed at work for $30 million a year? I sure wouldn’t.

Posted by: Ari at October 30, 2007 at 5:07 pm

Agreed with Peter — even 7 for 44 is selective (you left off his best postseason as a Yankeee).
And if you look at his entire history (and not just the past 3 years), A-Rod’s lifetime stats in the postseason are .279/.361/.483 (which, coincidentally enough, means he has had the rough equivalent of Derek Jeter’s postseason career — .309/.377/.469 — without the context of big playoff moments for which Jeter is quite rightly remembered).
The results are just much more disappointing when his regular season stats create such high expectations.

Posted by: Alceste at October 30, 2007 at 6:07 pm

If he was a team player, he wouldn’t have opted out of his contract, thereby putting the Yanks at a $20 million disadvantage in the negotiations to keep him around, negotiations which they already said they weren’t interested in. ($20 million is what the Rangers still owed the Yanks, but only if A-Rod stuck to his current contract.) In other words, saying he’s leaving open the option of dealing w/ the Yanks is total bull. The sad thing is that they were prepared to offer him the largest salary in baseball history, and he still felt he was being insulted.
And yes, one would think a player deserving $30 million a year could do better than .136 in playoffs since 2004 with zero hits in his last 18 at-bats with runners in scoring position. I’m sorry, but that kind of salary demands being a postseason leader.
One other thing — Karol, you said the media and fans tore him apart. You think everyone just arbitrarily chose A-Rod to pick on?
I hope no team even entertains paying him half of what he made last season. As his tenure with the Yanks should show, regular season stats aside, his overall value is greatly diminished by his other, more “intangible” qualities.

Posted by: FunkyPundit at October 30, 2007 at 6:47 pm

Would you care if you got booed at work for $30 million a year?
If could make the same amount of money elsewhere and not get treated like shit, I’d be out of there in a heartbeat. And it seems like he did.

Posted by: Peter at October 30, 2007 at 7:01 pm

Look… to brashly echo Hank Steinbrenner ‘if you can’t help us win, who needs ya’.
OF COURSE, he had awesome numbers (it’s simply undeniable) but rarely when we needed them (October). Again, I’ll miss him, but if anyone thinks anything other than money factored in, well they are nuts. Every Yankee fan in NY could have hugged and kissed him and it wouldn’t have made a difference. Don’t forget – he didn’t even return the Yankees calls or meet with them to listen to the offer! How do you defend that? How?!?
In the great tradition of Roger Clemens, A-Rod was, is and will be a mercenary, playing for the money, not the love of the game.
Please try not to kid yourself into believing otherwise.

Posted by: Ari at October 30, 2007 at 9:21 pm

If it really was about the money, nobody could possibly offer more than the Yankees. But he knew he wasn’t going to stay no matter what they offered, so why even bother talking to them? New York treated him like shit for years, he wanted out, and now he gets to leave with his middle finger in the air. In some perverse way, I really respect him for that.
You mention October, and since Hank just recently implored us to compare A-Rod to Jeter (who’s conveniently viewed as the gold standard of postseason excellence), let’s do just that. A-Rod out hit the captain in both rounds of the 2004 postseason and again this year. In his much derided 2005 postseason — a series in which Mike Scioscia would later admit to instructing his pitchers not to give A-Rod anything to hit –A-Rod still had the better OBP. As Alceste mentions above, the myth that A-Rod disappears in the postseason is just a myth. The problem with people judging players by postseason performances is that it involves a small sample size and selective memory. If you’d like, I could show you some postseasons where immortals like Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantle were absolutely dreadful. Even Reggie Jackson, Mr October himself, had a horrible ALCS in 1977 but people prefer to remember his performance in the next round. The great Ted Williams has a career postseason line of .200/.333/.200. and he’s considered one of the greatest hitters ever.

Posted by: Peter at October 30, 2007 at 10:25 pm
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