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January 30, 2007

Shorter geo-political conversation

America to Europe: Please help us isolate nuke-obsessed Iran.

Europe to America: Nah.

Posted by Karol at 06:28 PM |
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What on earth do you expect? The last time we tried to shame them into going along with our big foreign policy shenanigans, it turned into a big, huge, fucked-up mess.

Posted by: Michael at January 30, 2007 at 11:12 pm

Yeah, totally. I mean, like when they took care of Bosnia all on their own or when they fended off the Soviet Union, they didn’t turn to us for help at all.

Posted by: Karol at January 31, 2007 at 12:38 am

If you want to know my opinion on Europe’s diplomatic interactions with us, I’ll simply provide this example:
Two days or so before Bush sent our troops to invade Iraq, the United Nations unanimously voted for Saddam to disarm and to come to the table and discuss WMDs and a bunch of other things. Saddam, seeing the writing on the wall, completely changed his stance from playing political games with U.N. inspectors and started cooperating.
Then, France and Germany broke ranks, which divided the U.N, Saddam immediately threw out the U.N. inspectors, and Bush invaded Iraq (mainly because he couldn’t go back on his word).
Ignoring the fact that France and Germany were getting awesome economic deals, which were rather shady, from Iraq it’s fairly obvious that Europe cannot, at the present time, present a unified front politically. So, asking them to help on something like Iran is a noble gesture, but it will most likely not happen.

Posted by: Pokerwolf at January 31, 2007 at 7:40 am

Okay, then, if we’re looking at all of history and not just the last incident, as I specified in my post: France is our oldest ally. France came to our rescue during the Revolution. So what the hell’s up with the France-bashing? What kind of turncoat are you that you attack our oldest ally?
Or wait: you want to work with Britain, as we have been for the past several years? Hell, they burned down the White House during the War of 1812! Are you some kind of traitor, that you want to work with the country that attacked us on our own soil??!!???!!!

Posted by: Michael at January 31, 2007 at 9:32 am

Oh, and don’t forget how we save their asses in The Big One. Fuckin’ frogs. Don’t they realize that they are only tools to be used for our own foreign policy ends? What does this word “sovereignty” mean that people keep mentioning?

Posted by: Michael at January 31, 2007 at 9:35 am

It’s interesting that the Euros don’t want to pressure the Iranians. On the one hand, their economy is pretty fragile and needs as much non-US trade that it can handle. And on the other hand, the Iranian arsenal is primed to turn the Netherlands into a parking lot. Iran is a bigger nuclear threat to the Euros than to the US. This may shape up to be an error of Hitler-Stalin proportions.

Posted by: David at January 31, 2007 at 4:58 pm
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