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November 28, 2006

Buenvenidos a Miami

Congressman Tancredo calls Miami a `Third World country’

I like Tancredo, honest, I think he’s a necessary voice against illegal immigration and speaks up when everyone else is silent. But this comment was moronic and Miami, as well as America, deserves an apology.

Miami is an incredible place, beautiful, vibrant, with glorious beaches, fantastic restaurants, a terrific nightlife and a culture to rival any of America’s great metropolises. It’s crime rates are on par with Denver, the capital city of Tancredo’s home state. Additionally, Miami has traditionally been home to the Cuban-American community, a community that has escaped Communism and is dedicated to fighting America’s enemies in Cuba. Are there many other immigrant groups who can say the same–that their goal is to help America defeat its enemies?

To insult Miami is to insult America–Tancredo should apologize.

Posted by Karol at 09:26 AM |
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Ok, I didn’t even read all of this but your “to insult miami is to insult america” is just crazy talk. That is New York.

Posted by: Not Dawn Summers at November 28, 2006 at 2:42 pm

Miami is one of our main cities. There’s even a phrase “If you want to be someone, go to LA. If you are someone, go to NY. If you were someone, go to Miami”. It’s like one of five cities people think of immediately when they think of America.

Posted by: Karol at November 28, 2006 at 2:44 pm

Cray. Zee. Talk.

Posted by: Not Dawn Summers at November 28, 2006 at 2:46 pm

I generally like Tancredo and he does have the gift for gab. While that is sometimes good (such as his saying he would lead the charge to impeach Bush if an illegal alien was involved in terrorist activities here in the US), it is often not helpful. If Tancredo could actually keep his foot out of his mouth, he would actually stand a chance to win the White House. For on immigtation, as on so many issues, el presidente Jorge W. Bush has simply not put America and Americans first and the left is, as usual, hopeless. Simply put, Americans are sick of pushing 1 for English and tired of the heavy finanical and cultural costs of massive immigration without assimilation. I think many Americans would rather see the troops out of Iraq and on the border.
When I read this, I thought of the Haitians and Dominicans and not the Cubans. When Castro goes, I’m sure the Cubans will be heading back to their isle, a good 90 miles off the coast. HA HA HA HA HA.
And of course Denver and Miami have very similiar crime rates. They’re both, como se dice, centers for immigrants who have no intention and are not encouraged to be assmimilated.
Miami is as American as New York or LA which is why most Americans generally prefer the green fields and golden arches of suburbia.

Posted by: Von Bek at November 28, 2006 at 3:01 pm

Miami is an incredible place, beautiful, vibrant, with glorious beaches, fantastic restaurants, a terrific nightlife and a culture to rival any of America’s great metropolises.
Spoken like a true tourist who has money to burn and doesn’t have to deal with the day to day dreg of life.
People have been complaining about LA being a Third World country for 20 years. There are parts of it that are extremely dirty, crowded, with nary a word of English to be heard. You can’t walk on the sidewalk on sections of Santa Monica in Hollywood because it is all illegal street venders with the crap laid out. People have to step into the street just to walk by, impeding car traffic and it’s a mess.

Posted by: jay at November 28, 2006 at 3:03 pm

Miami is as American as New York or LA which is why most Americans generally prefer the green fields and golden arches of suburbia.
New York is the most American of all cities, Von Bek. We’re the oldest, the richest, the most diverse, the most powerful, the most interesting and can boast the very best of the best of everything.

Posted by: Not Dawn Summers at November 28, 2006 at 3:09 pm

To insult Miami is to insult America–Tancredo should apologize.
You do realize there will be people screaming that his quip insulted the Third World. Will he be forced to apologize to them, too? lol!
New York is the most American of all cities, Von Bek
Puleez! We can barely understand you people when you speak!

Posted by: jay at November 28, 2006 at 3:27 pm

All I’m saying is that if the Third World were ANYTHING like Miami, they’d be extremely happy with their situation.

Posted by: Karol at November 28, 2006 at 3:40 pm

We can barely understand you people when you speak!
Welcome, welcome to America.
Put yer lighters up.

Posted by: Not Dawn Summers at November 28, 2006 at 3:46 pm

“New York is the most American of all cities, Von Bek. We’re the oldest, the richest, the most diverse, the most powerful, the most interesting and can boast the very best of the best of everything.”
Old, rich, interesting ? How the hell is that American Dawn ? :)
In all seriousness, my view of New York is a bit skewed by my years living on the Upper West Side. I think parts of the outter boroughs are much more in line with the rest of America. As for rent control, Al Sharpton, Jerry Nadler, insane rental prices, St. John the Divine, overhyped and underperforming sports teams (I’m thinking the Knicks and not the Yankees here, honest….and btw how does Issiah Thomas keep getting jobs?), taking cabs and subways, Philip Johnson designed buildings, the ridicously overrated H and H bagels, $20,000 a year to send your nursery school kids to the 92nd St Y, damn them all to hell. Are there parts of Manhattan which I wish we could import to all America ? Sure bunches but we’re obese enough as a country as is, I don’t think every community can support a Strand and we can’t clone Shannon Briggs.

Posted by: Von Bek at November 28, 2006 at 3:52 pm

New York? Puleeeze. 1000 years from now archeologists are gonna be spending most of their time studying the business and cultural nexus of early twenty-first century America – the San Franciso Bay area.
Besides, why is it that when New Yorkers retire they move to Miami, huh? Huh?

Posted by: Eric at November 28, 2006 at 4:37 pm

Probably because Florida doesn’t have a state income tax, and the chance of experiencing sub-zero weather during Winter is virtually nil.

Posted by: Gerard at November 28, 2006 at 6:23 pm

While the writer of the article may disagree with Tancredo, we should not censor him. Afterall, censorship is becoming America’s favorite past-time. The US gov’t (and their corporate friends), already detain protesters, ban books like “America Deceived” America Deceived (book) from Amazon and Wikipedia, and fire 21-year tenured, BYU physics professor Steven Jones because he proved explosives, thermite in particular, took down the WTC buildings. Disagree with Tancredo but do not impede his right to say what he wants.

Posted by: Kent G at November 28, 2006 at 7:55 pm

Maybe he was refering to the out of control drug/gang violence in Miami. I believe an Aussie writer described it as worse than Bagdad.

Posted by: Scrapiron at November 28, 2006 at 8:39 pm

The only thing Steven Jones proved was that he was a whackjob.

Posted by: jay at November 28, 2006 at 10:25 pm

Are there many other immigrant groups who can say the same–that their goal is to help America defeat its enemies?
Depends on the enemy and the time period. I mean, who fought the British to get this democratic experiment going?

Posted by: Shawn at November 28, 2006 at 10:38 pm

Yes, that’s true. And I love them too.

Posted by: Karol at November 28, 2006 at 11:00 pm

censorship is becoming America’s favorite past-time. The US gov’t (and their corporate friends), already detain protesters, ban books like “America Deceived” America Deceived (book) from Amazon and Wikipedia

I (heart) censorship! Why, oh why, is it not practiced more!?

Posted by: Radical Redneck at November 29, 2006 at 12:51 am

I don’t think anyone was suggesting that Tancredo should be censored. Ridiculed and scorned for being stupid (and politically tone-deaf; I’ll forebear from more “dumb v. dumber” commentary, but jeeez.) But he has every right to look like an idiot, to further tarnish the reputation of his party, and to delegitimize illegal immigration / border security concerns if he so choses.
Having said that, the best way to ridicule trolls is probably to simply not feed them. So in a way, I’m sorry for responding to the censorship stalking horse. OTOH, the modern fashion of referring to criticism as censorship is another WhatsAPundit sore spot.

Posted by: Mark Poling at November 29, 2006 at 10:24 am

It’s crime rates are on par with Denver, . . .
Try looking at the stats of Dade County.

Posted by: jay at November 29, 2006 at 12:04 pm

He didn’t say Dade County, he said Miami.

Posted by: Karol at November 29, 2006 at 12:22 pm

Miami is Dade County
http://www.gmcvb.com/visitors/Miami-DadeCountyMap.pdf

Posted by: David at November 29, 2006 at 12:55 pm

I know it is. But he didn’t say “Dade County is like a Third World country”, he specifically said Miami which, as anyone who has been there knows, is beyond absurd.

Posted by: Karol at November 29, 2006 at 12:57 pm

Amsterdam.
But I guess Amsterdam truly is “furrin”, even if not exactly Third World….

Posted by: Mark Poling at November 29, 2006 at 1:16 pm

Karol,
I think you’re stretching it on the Miami/Dade County evasion. Besides, East New York is part of New York. I don’t see you hanging out there much despite living almost your entire life in the City.
I swear, reading this post, I thought it was written by some kind of liberal. Tancredo said something mean. He hurt my feelings. Wanh wanh wanh.
Surely, if you cry like this every time someone bad mouths Miami, the terrorists have won.

Posted by: Ken at November 29, 2006 at 5:05 pm

No, you’re wrong. A conservative wrote this post, one that doesn’t like seeing other conservatives say dumb things. He muddles his message when he confuses Miami with a third world country. I’ve been to third world countries, they ain’t no Miami.

Posted by: Karol at November 29, 2006 at 5:08 pm

You can’t fool us. We all watch The First 48. I said Dade County because I wasn’t sure whether Liberty City was adjacent to Miami or in Miami proper. It has been incorporate. You can go on and on about glorious beaches, fantastic restaurant, terrific nightlife. You can say the same about Rio De Janeiro which is as third world as you can get. You can chose to not see the ugly side of Miami, however, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Posted by: jay at November 29, 2006 at 7:23 pm

He may have used the wrong terminology.
Not that anything short of putting on a UFW arm band and hoisting a La Raza banner will satisfy the ethnic bean-counters in the media.
Have you ever read “Before Night Falls?”
One of the most beautiful, haunting memoirs I’ve ever read.
There’s a great section where Reinaldo Arenas explores the oppressive insularity of Miami, which kind of explains why he wound up moving to this city after a brief stay with some fellow Marielitos.
Tancredo’s phraseology might have been wrong, but the fact that we’ve become factionalized into ethnic and linguistic ghettos is undeniable.
Anyway, food for thought.

Posted by: Gerard at November 30, 2006 at 12:21 am
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