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September 30, 2004

Just on the other side.

“The Iraqi insurgents are our best allies.”
-French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin


Posted by Karol at 06:18 PM |

Disappointing? Sure. No one should be surprised. After all, more Frenchmen VOLUNTEERED for the Nazi Charlemagne Division than fought in the Resistance. The French have a natural ability to first accomodate and then ally themselves with their and our enemies.

Posted by: Tim at September 30, 2004 at 6:37 pm

‘The Iraqi insurgents are our best allies.’
good enough for me – let’s nuke paris!

Posted by: scot at September 30, 2004 at 7:45 pm

this is what’s so disgusting about kerry’s constant referrals to them as our “allies.”
hey, jfk! i know you and marx are like, buddies, but just cause we’re both rich countries doesn’t automatically make us one and the same.

Posted by: candace at September 30, 2004 at 7:47 pm

Man, I hope that’s just a bad translation from French.

Posted by: Shawn at September 30, 2004 at 7:55 pm

how sad to see you grasping… even the ny post put the quote in the context of the iraqi insurgency being their best friends in freeing the two kidnapped french journalists.
do you really doubt that communication with the kidnappers and paying the ransom is what’s freed most others?

Posted by: mike d at October 1, 2004 at 9:41 am

Mike, I don’t know about you, but I’m not ok with the French communicating and dealing with the terrorists in Iraq. I don’t care what the reason is, we are fighting an enemy and France is on the other side.

Posted by: Karol at October 1, 2004 at 11:41 am

well, these “terrorists” are kidnapping for ransom, not for principle. if their goal is to extort money, they’re a lot closer to mobsters than to jihadis. seriously, the italian hostages were also released after a ransom was paid. would you have preferred that they had died for another nation’s principles?
i don’t.
anyway, france bashing is really getting old. they’ve been using this theme in elections since the days of thomas jefferson. yep, they sure are cheese-eating surrender monkeys. yawn.

Posted by: mike d at October 1, 2004 at 1:46 pm

anyway, france bashing is really getting old. yawn.
You think it’s the end, but it’s just the beginning. France bashing will not be “old” as long as they have their seat on the UN SC. Also, it will not get old before America-bashing gets old. Belch. I mean, yawn. Or whatever.

Posted by: Ivan Lenin at October 1, 2004 at 3:29 pm

France: “The Iraqi insurgents are our best allies”

Thank you, Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin, for clarifying that. And speaking of insurgents, why isn’t Sadr dead yet?

Posted by: Winds of Change.NET at October 1, 2004 at 4:22 pm

Mike, the French PM called them ‘insurgents’. That implies that they are fighting for their country, or ‘principle’. It does not imply a business transaction. Giving in to terrorists only breeds more terrorists. Why wouldn’t they keep taking hostages to get cash? I wouldn’t bash France if they didn’t do things that are bash-able.

Posted by: Karol at October 1, 2004 at 4:51 pm

One wonders how the insurgents mysteriously came to be France’s greatest friends in this situaiton? The only connection that makes any sense is pre-existing ties – or a quid pro quo under the table. In either case, the implication is clear and disturbing.
In general, I treat France as a hostile, armed non-belligerent. There are instances where interests overlap, but I see these as the exception not the rule.
Note that France is not a monolith, however, and that this is subject to some change (not total change, because it has deep roots, but some) depending on changes in the French political class.
There are friends and allies to be found in France, even if they aren’t the ones in power.

Posted by: Joe Katzman at October 1, 2004 at 4:54 pm

Could you please warn me before you nuke Paris ? I’ll gotta jump into an american helicopter to get out of my f**** country ! God, I just can’t stand staying here…

Posted by: ashamed-frenchman at October 2, 2004 at 11:09 am

France appears to be acting to protect its citizens.
to many on here it seems as if France is acting out of blatant self interest against it’s ally the US.
not that the US has ever acted purely out of self interest or against an ally.
oh wait i forgot the Briton still being tortured in guantanamo.

Posted by: Young-white-and-liberal at October 2, 2004 at 11:25 am

Before you judge, you gotta live in France for some years… If you haven’t – you’re being too subjective.

Posted by: Sally at October 19, 2004 at 1:29 pm
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