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September 29, 2004

Let law-abiding citizens own guns.

If a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality, what is a libertarian who has sort-of been mugged? Angry, that’s what.

Posted by Karol at 02:51 AM |
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Sure, as long as everybody keeps their head screwed on straight and comes clean about the real function of guns and the real social costs we pay for being an armed citizenry.
Guns make no one any safer. They merely make the perps less safe. Arm yourself as well as you can and you may still run into the perp who kills you by getting his piece out faster than you do.
This happened to my local gun dealer, a famous neighborhood character, a month or two back–he hadn’t replaced his two old Dobermans who had died and left him heartbroken (and were the real reason why perps left his gun store alone), two perps knocked him over, and the gunfight left him dead and one of the perps wounded.
We’re a big gun state out here in Ohio. The death notice in the paper asked that, in lieu of flowers, donations be sent to Ohioans For Concealed Carry.

Posted by: Joseph Marshall at September 29, 2004 at 7:20 am

Gun safety laws for the bad guys

1215Z WED 29SEP04. Reason. Julian Sanchez. Julian has finally come to the realization that gun safety laws protect not good citizens, but rather the bad guys. In DC, where handguns are banned, the criminals need not worry about homeowners having

Posted by: Airborne Combat Engineer at September 29, 2004 at 8:22 am

Plus, from the story the home invasion took place while the residents were asleep, meaning that if there was a loaded gun, the perp would have been the one to get it first and possibly kill the whole house ‘em.

Posted by: Dawn Summers at September 29, 2004 at 11:47 am

No, Karol. The quote is a neoconservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. I think those of us whose conservatism springs from the tenants of our faith, pride in our heritage and love for our homes have a different perspective all together than the neocons.

Posted by: Von Bek at September 29, 2004 at 11:54 am

You’re right, Von Bek, the quote is ‘neo-conservative’.

Posted by: Karol at September 29, 2004 at 1:10 pm

I think it was Kristol the Elder.

Posted by: Von Bek at September 29, 2004 at 1:13 pm

Yep, that’s Kristol’s definitiona of a neocon that I proudly apply to myself.
But even before I started leaning to the right, I liked the Second Amendment. Someone said, “An armed society is a polite society.” I never believed that State is entitled to a monopoly on guns.
Joseph Marshall’s utilitarian argument here is wrong: guns do make people safer, and there are plenty of numbers to prove it.
http://www.justfacts.com/gun_control.htm
All the argument to the contrary I’ve seen, always involves telling of melodramatic stories a-la Michael Moore, as Mr.Marshall just did.
I think that what really makes people safer is their values and their culture. People themselves, and not the government, are responsible for that. Good citizens are not raised by the government: they are raised by their parents.

Posted by: Ivan Lenin at September 29, 2004 at 4:37 pm

Otto Von Bismark the 19th century German Chancellor among others is credited with the following phrase.
“anyone who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart. Anyone who is not a CONSERVATIVE (my emphasis) at 60 HAS NO BRAIN.”

Posted by: Young-white-and-liberal at September 30, 2004 at 11:07 am

random question that maybe some of you more pro-gun types might be able to answer: since the 2nd amendment is generally interpreted to restrict the federal government’s ability to pass anti-gun laws but leaves states with the ability to regulate them as they see fit and since D.C.’s major laws are passed by the federal government and not any local authority, how does D.C. have such stringent gun control laws?

Posted by: Alceste at September 30, 2004 at 11:41 am

war creat more war, armed citizens, will creat more danger criminals in order to achive their goals whether the victim has hand gun or not.

Posted by: diego perez at October 8, 2004 at 10:39 am

las armas son para los policias, militares y seguridad privada no para los ciudadanos que no tienen el entrenemiento suficiente para manejar armas con suficiente seguridad y responsabilida.

Posted by: diego perez at October 8, 2004 at 10:43 am
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