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June 29, 2004

Let me get this straight

Andrew Sullivan has shunned Bush over gay marriage. While he hasn’t explicitly endorsed Kerry, unless he is sitting this one out (which I doubt), he will do at some point. Today, he quotes a Hillary line, ‘we’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good’, and notes that it’s the essence of today’s liberalism. But, honestly, the Clintons make Kerry look like Nader or Kucinich. If they are liberals, what is John Kerry? And, what exactly will Andrew Sullivan have to accept in order to cast a vote for him? How important is gay marriage to him (especially considering that Kerry is against gay marriage) and how can it trump everything else?

Posted by Karol at 02:43 PM |
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Do you know anything about Nader, Kucinich, Kerry or Clinton? Because that sentence is making me wonder.

Posted by: Dawn Summers at June 29, 2004 at 3:24 pm

Karol:
If you have time can you please explain to me why how Andrew Sullivan votes has so gotten every conservative’s goat? I’m tired of defending him and he doesn’t pay me enough (I keed. I keed.) But, I would think at some point, if everyone’s written him off due to his apostasy orto his not linking to a certain piece on his blog or for, whatever, it gets confusing, it would get tiresome bashing him for his choice, or for drawing his choice out too long, or for, what is the problem again?
I mean, IMO, if you read him you understand the internal logic of his decision. I don’t agree with it, but I understand why he came to the conclusion. But, why is this all such a big deal?

Posted by: Eric Deamer at June 29, 2004 at 3:27 pm

Eric, I’m a Sullivan fan. I just wish he would maintain his honesty, even in the face of his disapproving of Bush. I still like him a lot and enjoy him as a writer but he is being so inconsistent and that’s, well, not consistent with what I’ve known about his politics. I’ve read him for a long, long time, I’m not waiting for him to be a perfect conservative, just to be true to us and himself.
And Dawn, no, who are they?

Posted by: Karol at June 29, 2004 at 3:33 pm

Karol:
See, I just really don’t think he’s being inconsistent gosh darn it. From the beginning he made it clear that support for the anti-gay marriage amendment was “a dealbreaker”, not being against gay marriage per se, which virtually every politician except for Kucinich and some green party people are against, but the amendment. He’s followed through on that. You can think that’s the stupidest, craziest thing in the world, but I don’t see how it’s “inconsistent”.

Posted by: Eric Deamer at June 29, 2004 at 3:46 pm

I doubt Andrew Sullivan will support Kerry. More likely, he will write someone in. I know several people who are doing this, and I’ve thought about doing it too — all because of President Bush’s support for the Federal Marriage Amendment.
Maybe the White House was right in its political calculation on this issue, but there should be no illusions: There are costs as well as benefits.

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